We have received the following enquiry from A. Jackson, regarding the history of Alsop Hall.
I have a query about Alsop Hall and the family that resided there.
I recently bought two books, both with inscriptions on the inside. The first (called Lost Gip by Hesba Stretton) has the following inside: “To John, from Mrs Heald, Alsop Hall, Derbyshire“. Could you tell me anything about both these names? Probably written around the 1900s (due to the age of the book).
The second book I believe to be from the same place, as they were purchased from the same stall, are the same age and by the same publisher. The second is inscribed: “Awarded to Jane Lamb for lessons and attendance in the year 1900.” Again (although the books may in fact not be linked), could anyone tell me anything of this Jane Lamb?
I realise family histories are hard to track, but I’m intrigued to know something of these three people: John, Mrs Heald and Jane Lamb.
I look forward to hearing from you!
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Alsop Hall (now Alsop-en-le-Dale Hall) was sold by the creditors of the original Alsop family in the late 1600s, after well over 500 years of continuous occupation. It passed through various hands (including Isaac Borrow of Derby, the Gells of Hopton, the Poles of Nottingham, the Beresfords and Brownsons, and others). During this period it was primarily a farm house rather than a principle seat.
In the 1880s Sir Henry Allsopp bought the Estate and tried to revive the title Lord Alsop of Alsop. He failed to demonstrate his descent from the original Alsop family. His principal seat was at Hindlip and eventually had to be content with the title Baron Hindlip of Hindlip and of Alsop-en-le-Dale when his peerage was conferred. I understand but have no confirmation of this, that he used it as a shooting lodge. He died in 1887.
There is some information to be found in back copies of the Parwich & District Local History Society newsletter (see their website http://parwichhistory.com/ ).
The Allsopp’s of Hindlip subsequently sold Alsop-en-le-Dale Hall and there seems to have been a rapid turn over of occupants of the house: Craven & Stanley in “The Derbyshire Country House” list Thomas Critchlow (a local farming family), John Hall, J N Heald and Edward Mark Philips who made alterations to the house in the early 1930s and died in 1936.
I am afraid I have no further information on the Heald family, perhaps current residents in Alsop-en-le-Dale will have further information.
my name is shane alsop im from new zealand my family are trying to trace back our family tree and it leads to sir henry allsopp is there any connection to this person as it was said that he failed to demonstrate his decent to the family name
In the 1880s Sir Henry Allsopp bought the Estate and tried to revive the title Lord Alsop of Alsop. He failed to demonstrate his descent from the original Alsop family. His principal seat was at Hindlip and eventually had to be content with the title Baron Hindlip of Hindlip and of Alsop-en-le-Dale when his peerage was conferred. I understand but have no confirmation of this, that he used it as a shooting lodge. He died in 1887.
My name is Christopher mark Alsop 15 12 1964 I’m fm Doncaster England any relationship to uou
Researching I see I am a direct descendant of Sir William Alsop
1661–1730
BIRTH 1661 • Alsop en le Dale, Derbyshire, England
DEATH 1730 • Hanover, Virginia, USA
7th great-grandfather
Sir William Alsop was born in 1661 in Alsop en le Dale, Derbyshire, England, the son of Anne and George. He married Mary East Alsop in 1679. They had five children during their marriage. He died in 1730 in Hanover, Virginia, at the age of 69.
Would that be who lost the Hall?
Hey there Robert, would you happen to have the names of the children of Sir William and Mary ?
In the late 17th century, Anthony Alsop’s creditors forced the sale of the estate to meet his debts. …
Good day everyone. My name is Stephen Bowen, born in Derby UK but living in Canada. My grandmothers maiden name was Alsop and I can trace her side right back to the original owner of that land Gamellus de Alsope back in the 1100’s. My sister and I will be in England in September 2019 and plan to visit this area and maybe (if possible) talk to the resident of the property. Very exciting
Cool I can trace back to him also…
I track as follows
Gamellus de Alsope 1120
Gweno de Alsope 1150
Henry de Alsope 1188
Richard de Alsope 1217
William de Alsope 1235
Ranulph de Alsope 1265
Ranulph de Alsope 1298
Richard de Alsope 1325
Thomas Alsope 1355
Johannes Alsope 1385
Johannes Alsope 1410
Thomas Allsop 1470
John Allsop 1495
George Allsop 1520
lets at least start there
Steven, I dopn’t want to the bearer of bad news but you skipped a forefather. You had 60 years between the birth of Johannes 1410 and Thomas 1470. There was a third John/Johannes born in 1440. Johannes Alsope 1385
Johannes Alsope 1410
john Alsoppe 1440
Thomas Allsop 1470
the 1440 John was married to Lady Mary Wrench
Take lots of pictures….
Hi Steve, I have DNA links back to this family too. Can’t quite work out the connection as my ancestor is Rev Thomas Alsop, born 1633.
Patricia
Hi Patricia. There are so many Thomas Alsops in my records. Can you give me any more details as in parents or siblings ?
Hi Stephen. From what I can work out, Thomas (1633 – 1716) was a son of Thomas Allsop & Dorothy Brudnell. He married Grace Brown and his sons were Thomas 1666 & John 1668. Her died at Boylestonfield, Derbyshire & was my 8 x great grandfather. I have him born at Baslow, Derbyshire. His father, also Reverend Thomas, died in 1682 in Hathern, Leicestershire.
This Thomas married Anne Brown and their son was Rev William Browne Allsop who married Lucy Newby.
Feel free to correct any of this information if you have anything on this family.
Thank you for your reply Patrica but I am sorry to say that I have no Thomas (son of Thomas) in the time from of 1633-1716 nor do I have any Anne Brown or Lucy Newby. I only have Thomas’s (son of Thomas) born 1736, 1758, 1769, 1855 and 1870 and that applies to all the spellings of Alsop. Sorry I could not help any.
Hello, from Derek Frederick Alsop (43m) Whitby, Ontario, Canada.
So interesting. My name is Kelly Alsup Balagia and I descend from Tennessee Alsups. I am in Scotland as I type this and we are driving to Alsop-en-le-Dale tomorrow. I would love to have the deep research that some of you have secured. Perhaps this will be the catalyst.
In the late 1800’s one of the “Allsoppe” or abbreviated in many spellings gambled away the family home and fled to Tennessee US. You will note there are many Alsups in Tennessee do to his marring a woman there and having a family. (he left a family in UK) From what i have been told that Alsup was joined by his brother from UK and both were counterfeiters. In the early 1900’s the US the FBI tracked them down to Tennessee and they fled.