Update on Green Lane, Pikehall
I recently wrote an article about green lanes and motor vehicles in Parwich parish magazine and on the Parwich website. I now wish to update you on the situation relating to Green Lane, Pikehall.
We have recently been informed by Derbyshire County Council that the claim to have this lane registered as a By Way Open to All Traffic (BOAT) has been closed. This means that the status of Green Lane will be unclear for the immediate future but it can no longer be used by public motor vehicles (excluding mobility scooters).
Signs will be erected on Green Lane in the near future to state that motor vehicles are not permitted (landowners and tenants with access are still permitted to use the route to access their fields) and we will monitor the situation with vehicle loggers. Should it be necessary we may ask the police to hold an Operation Blackbrook day at Pikehall to help explain to motor vehicle users about the confirmed new status of the route. Please leave any actions and enforcement to the appropriate authorities and bear in mind that this status has only just been confirmed by DCC and vehicle users may well be using the route unaware of the resolution of the routes status at the present time.
If you would like to discuss this matter further, then please don’t hesitate to call me on 01298 84992.
Lynn Burrow, Area Ranger, Peak District National Park Authority
PARWICH.ORG 
could you please explain “green lane” we have Cobblers nook,and cardlemere,which lane do you mean?
I am so glad that you have asked this question, I have looked it up I’m still not clear, only that it is very close to you.
On one website where they describe a walking, it says this.
Click to access peak-experience-Hoe-Grange-trail.pdf
At a three-way junction, go right, signed Green
Lane. Cross over the cycle way to Gotham and go
all the way to Pikehall.
If no-one knows, I’ll contact Peak Park and ask for a map that we can put on the blog.
There’s no mention of a Green Lane on the OS map of this area, but it looks as if it must be the road that connects the circled points 9 (Cardlemere Lane) and 10 (Cottage Farm, Holly Bush Farm, Pikehall Farm, A5012) on the map that Jane has linked to above.
According to this DCC committee paper (click here to view), Green Lane was never upgraded to “Byway Open To All Traffic” (BOAT) status. An upgrade request was received in 2004, but as the original claimant failed to produce further requested information by July 2010, the case has been deemed to be closed. In which case, perhaps the status of this lane has never changed at all.
As the lane would appear to be of little use as a through route, perhaps it is only being regularly used by “landowners and tenants with access”, who can continue to use it in any case?
I wonder if ‘Green Lane’ is a description rather than a local name. Lynn’s previous post that this follows up seems to use the term both as a description and a proper name (see https://parwich.org/2010/09/30/issues-relating-to-green-lanes-near-parwich/ ).
I was wondering about this too. I have always understood that ‘green lane’ refers to unsurfaced roads and tracks that have a long history of agricultural use that have never been formally adopted. Some of these green lanes have subsequently been given names that have local significance.
Green Lanes is a term used to refer to a road.
One of the ways of describing a Green Lane is a narrow tarmac road that has a ribbon of green down the middle because the road is too narrow for traffic to actually use all the tarmac
I have a copy of an old 1:10.000 map that actually names the stretch of track from the centre (!) of Pikehall to its junction with Cardlemere Lane – Cobblersnook Lane as ‘Green Lane’ (i.e. between SK191591 and SK176583 for those familar with grid references).
Now sufficiently intrigued by the ‘discussion’ about the definition of ‘green lanes’, I looked up how the Countryside Agency defined a ‘green lane’ in one of its booklets ‘Out in the Country’:
‘A descriptive term for a way. It is normally used where the way is bounded by hedges or stone walls, and where the surface is not, or does not appear to be, metalled or otherwise surfaced (sometimes there is an old surface under the grass or mud).’
What rights the public has, if any, depend on its status as a highway.
There is no legal definition of a ‘green lane’ and no requirement to record.
Another source, Rights of Way: A Guide to Law and Practice (by Paul Clayden and John Trevelyan) gives the following definition of a ‘green lane’:
‘A green lane is a term with no legal meaning whatsoever. It is a purely physical description of an unsurfaced track, normally hedged, and often, but not always, of some antiquity. It may be a footpath, bridleway or carriageway or may not even carry any public rights of way at all.’
All suitably vague!
I must dust off my walking boots and walk down Green Lane, as it’s ages I did so!
Saskia is correct about the location of Green Lane, it is the actual name of this lane. If you click on this link you will see the map that we put on the during the initial discussion of this issue. https://parwich.org/2010/11/22/the-location-of-green-lane/
In googling green lanes in the Peak District I came across the sport of green laning.
Coincidentally, a group of us found ourselves walking along a section of this very lane on Sunday afternoon (and getting soaked to the skin in the process, more fool us!). At the west end of the lane, where it hits a T-junction with a path that’s labelled as a cycle track (Biggin in one direction, Hartington in the other, if I remember correctly), the wooden signpost does indeed refer to it as “GREEN LANE”.