The poll in our previous post is so far indicating a majority support some form of part night lighting in Parwich. This further post contains individual polls for each street light in the Village.
You can have your say on which street lights are turned off for part of the night and which remain on by contacting:
- Derbyshire County Council directly by Tuesday 2nd April 2013 on their Parwich consultation page or by post to Street Lights, Derbyshire County Council, County Hall, Matlock, DE4 3AG
- Parwich Parish Council prior to their next meeting on Wednesday 20th March 2013, by speaking to a councillor, by emailing the Clerk on sandra.hampson@hotmail.co.uk, or by attending the open section of their meeting.
or here at
- PARWICH.ORG by completing the polls below and adding comments. We will then forward poll results and any comments to the County Council prior to the close of the Parwich consultation on the 2nd April.
The County Council’s rationale in deciding their proposals can be seen on their website, but they will not understand as well as us how we might be effected, so please fill in at least the polls for the lights outside your house.
There should be a separate poll below for each Parwich street light (based on plan circulated by Derbyshire County Council):
Nether Green (through route)
Light 065369
at Creamery Lane opening outside Nethergreen Cottage
County Council propose remain on all night
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Sycamore & Chestnut Cottages (through route)
Light 087923
outside 12 Sycamore Cottages
County Council propose only part night
Light 065368
outside 2 Chestnut Cottages
County Council propose remain on all night
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Smithy Close (cul-de-sac)
Light 093093
outside Flats 2 to 7 Smithy Close
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 093094
outside Flats 8 to 11 Smithy Close
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 104261
outside 12 Smithy Close
County Council propose remain on all night
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Church Green & Main Street (through route)
Light 065367
at roadside gable of Dam Farm
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065366
by bus shelter on The Green
County Council propose part night
Light 065365
outside Flaxdale House
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065364
opposite Brentwood
County Council propose part night
Light 065363
outside Telephone Exchange
County Council propose part night
Light 065362
on corner of Main Street & Pump Hill
County Council propose remain on all night
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Alsop Lane (through route)
Light 087922
on triangle next to the Legion
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065353
on bend near Flat Stiles drive
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065354
near Staines Cottage
County Council propose part night
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Lenscliffe (local access only)
Light 065370
between School & Lilac Cottage
County Council propose part night
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Smithy Lane (through route)
Light 065374
outside Crown Cottage
County Council propose part night
Light 087921
opposite Hall Gates Cottage
County Council propose part night
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Church Walk (local access only)
Light 065373
outside Hallcliffe Barn
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065372
outside 6 Church Walk
County Council propose part night
Light 065371
corner of Orchard View Cottage garden
County Council propose remain on all night
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Creamery Lane (generally only local access)
Light 092988
opposite 1 West View
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065356
opposite Croft Avenue opening
County Council propose remain on all night
Light 065355
on triangle at Creamery Lane/Monsdale Lane fork
County Council propose remain on all night
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Croft Avenue (cul-de-sac)
Light 065357
outside 1 Croft Avenue
County Council propose part night
Light 065358
outside 9 Croft Avenue
County Council propose part night
Light 065359
outside 5 Croft Avenue
County Council propose remain on all night
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Kiln Lane (local access only)
Light 092989
at Parwich Hall end of Kiln Lane
*** County Council propose permanently switched off ***
Light 065361
opposite Bell’s Yard
*** County Council propose permanently switched off ***
Light 065360
outside Gardener’s Cottage,
County Council propose part night
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Rathbourne Croft (cul-de-sac)
Light 092991
opposite Rathbourne Croft flats in Kiln Lane
County Council propose part night
Light 077643
in car parking in middle of Rathbourne Croft Houses
County Council propose remain on all night
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Mondale Lane (generally only local access)
Light 092990
on bend opposite Orchard Farm
County Council propose part night
PARWICH.ORG 
Although the County Council have obviously put a lot of work and thought into their consultation, there are inconsistencies in their proposals.
They propose to keep three lights on all night in Smithy Close, but only one at Rathbourne Croft. Further that is not the one by the Flats on Kiln Lane, but the one in the midst of the houses off the road. (Note, there is also Dales Housing lighting there off the road.)
They are not keeping any lights on all night in Smithy Lane, which is a through route, but are keeping all the lights on all night in Creamery Lane, which is generally only used as local access.
They are proposing to keep the light by Flat Stiles on all night, but are proposing to turn the light at the Parwich Hall end of Kiln Lane off altogether, though both serve similar purposes.
The Council propose to keep the lights on all night outside Flaxdale House and Hallcliffe Barn, neither of which serve a junction and are in an area with other lights, whilst having the one opposite Brentwood turned off for part of the night thought it is virtually opposite the difficult junction between Shaw Lane and Main Street. This junction, after the narrowing of the road between Dam Farm and Church Gates, is probably the location in the village most in need of lighting.
Further they are proposing to turn off two of the Kiln Lane lights completely, while keeping the Monsdale Lane light on at least for part of the night, though fewer house reached beyond the latter.
Personally I would go for less street lighting than is proposed, but also feel there should be local discussion to promote a more consistent approach. Presumably the Parish Council will be keen to have input to help them respond to these proposals, and it could be that the section where the public are allowed to speak at start of their next meeting would provide an opportunity for further discussion of these issues, though given the divergent views on this topic a consensus may be difficult.
If we vote to turn a light off all together, what happens to the lamp post? Does it just stay up as a redundant reminder of previous use? Also, I only voted on lamp posts in my immediate vicinity as I think it is a very personal decision – there are plus’s and minus’s re street lighting.
Debbie, Simon Spencer, County Councillor, says that street lights permanently switched off will ultimately be removed, but that they will remain while the success of the scheme is being monitored, in case it is decided that they should be switched back on.
Interesting news story on what happened in Bristol when street lighting was reduced: http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Burglars-afraid-dark-Crime-falls-Bristol-street/story-13952633-detail/story.html#axzz2NBOefr72
Similar results were also observed in Essex: http://www.thisistotalessex.co.uk/Essex-lights-project-extends/story-12634332-detail/story.html#axzz2NBQP3g9r
A poll by itself, with self-selected voters drawn primarily from Blog readers, can not be conclusive, it only really points out where the proposals need further consideration.
If these votes are going to convince the County Council to alter their plans, it would help to have reasons as well as numbers. For example here are two of the street lights that the polls highlight so far:
– the one opposite Brentwood, which I would argue needs to stay on all night because of the difficult junction between Shaw Lane and Main Street.
– the light at the bottom of Kiln Lane, which I feel is important to be on at least part time, because it helps light Pump Hill and the awkward steps by the triangle outside the Hall.
Consequently it would probably be useful for voters to add their own comments as well.